he did a great job of getting our voters on election day, but he gave over 50 speeches in 2009 about obamacare and never once moved the needle of public opinion on obamacare. he is not merely the salesman of people who already think he is. jon: every time he wanted to give a primetime speech, that didn't seem to have a great effect either. >> yes, he kept thinking that the more cowbell approach everything was the answer. but it's a lame duck and he has to go to the states that voted for mitt romney in the election to have the public put pressure on our senators to back them on an issue that they do not want to back him on. i kind of feel sorry for joe biden. i think he is sincere in all this, but he is out there with a dog of an issue politically. he wants to run in 2016 and he is stuck doing this while hillary clinton is going to cohost 60 minutes with barack obama this sunday. i am sure he is very bitter about that. jon: that is why we have the vice president giving helpful device that if you really want to protect yourself, go buy a shotgun. that way he can work both sides of the